And you know, it was terrible, because we were rude, in one way, and he was rude, in one way, and I think that he really thought that it was OK to do that. He’s he, he’s never really – I guess I would feel differently about him. If just once he would say, “I’m terribly sorry about all that. “ You know, just some thing, to make me think that he was, I don’t know. Why do you have to have that little thing, to say that you’re sorry? Because he really, he was a slob for a time, and now he’s a perfectly decent man. He’s a good congressman.
I gather.
Yes, one of the best. He’s 100% ADA. It’s like that. That upset me terribly. It made John furious, just furious.
It sounds like John has no love for him.
Oh! He just, he just gets furious, because of, of, well, he says any man that would leave his children, you know, he just thought that was terrible. And I started defending Don and saying, “well, it was better that he left them; he wouldn’t Have come and gotten them all the time. “So, you know, John has no love for him now. That’s fine.
And has that diminished for him, at all?
No, he just, and we watched Watergate, and we watched him on the judiciary, and you know, I see him on television sometime. I don’t know. He looks so different from when I knew him. He looks so different. He was, well, I mean when he was young. But I’m glad, because he came back this time, and, and, I just wonder if people carry things like that, all their lives and worry about him. I guess so. You can.
You can, but it sounds like you’re saying there’s some love in there.
No, no, it’s all over
You see some change, certainly.
Oh yeah. I think I could now be in the same room and talk to him and he wouldn’t be any one way or the other. We have confronted each other two or three times over the years, and, well, at Leonard‘s wedding he came with his girlfriend. That was a crisis because he was married at Colleen’s house. Do you know Colleen?
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